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This is our last online question! It has been a pleasure to have had the chance to teach you as well as to learn from you.
You might have to read the book over and do some research. Use quotes and give the source for your research. You should check the 8th grade class web links and Choices in Little Rock web links. Wikipedia might also be a good place for research. If you find new web links, you will get extra credit points.
Your first draft and feedback responses are due by Thursday at 8:30 AM on January 22nd. You have two weeks, but don’t wait until the last possible second. No work will be accepted after the deadline since the term ends on that Friday.
Part A: Dred Scott and Emmett Till
Part B: Emancipation Proclamation & Book Undying Glory: The Story of the 54th Massachusetts Regiment
Part C: Frederick Douglas and the “Second” Bill of Rights
Part A:
1. Who was Dred Scott?
2. What was the Supreme Court Decision in Scott vs. Sanford?
3. Who was Emmett Till?
4. Many social scientists argue that we cannot be so judgmental of people who were racist in the past, because these people were “the product of their day and time”. These social scientists argue that racist people were racist, because society was racist in the past. Do you agree or disagree with these social scientists? Why or why not?
Part B:
5. What were some of the political and social barriers did the 54th Regiment have to fight?
6. One of the political and social barriers that the 54th Regiment had to fight was the fact that the 54th was only allocated 2/3 of the pay of white troops. As a result, the 54th and its white officers refused to get paid, until the Union government paid them the same wages as white troops. Many of the 54th families suffered, because of this brave stance against racism. If you were one of the 54th soldiers would you have accepted less pay? Why or why not?
7. The Emancipation Proclamation written by Abraham Lincoln on January 1, 1863, “as the nation approached its third year of bloody civil war. The proclamation declared "that all persons held as slaves" within the rebellious states "are, and henceforward shall be free." “Despite this expansive wording, the Emancipation Proclamation was limited in many ways. It applied only to states that had seceded from the Union, leaving slavery untouched in the loyal border states. It also expressly exempted parts of the Confederacy that had already come under Northern control”. (http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/featured_documents/emancipation_proclamation/)
Many social scientists defend Lincoln’s limited emancipation of slaves, because there was the possibility that the five Border States (Delaware, Kentucky, Maryland, Missouri and West Virginia) would have seceded from the Union and joined the Confederacy if Lincoln had abolished slavery in the entire country. If these 5 Border States had joined the Confederacy, there is a chance that the Confederacy would have won the Civil War and today we would live in the Confederate States of America and not in the United States of America.
Question: If you were Abraham Lincoln would you have freed all the slaves? Why or why not?
Part C:
8. Many social scientists refer to the 13th, 14th, 15th Amendments as the “Second” Bill of Rights.
a. What rights are guaranteed in each of these Amendments?
b. Do you agree or disagree with the notion that the 13th, 14th and 15th Amendments should be considered the “Second” Bill or Rights?
c. Frederick Douglas was instrumental force in the abolitionist movement, the enlistment of black troops and the passage of the 13th, 14th and 15th Amendments. One of his most famous quotes is “Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will”. What do you think that Frederick Douglas meant by this quote?
37 comments:
Jean Villalona
part A:
1. Who was Dred Scott? dread scott was a slave who was taken to a hystate where slave are free by his owner(the owner took him for business of his own) but Dread scott saw that he had a opportunity to be free so, he took his owner to the supreme court and told the judge that he is a slave and he wanted freedom but the jury or judge say no because they are also slave owners too.
2. What was the Supreme Court Decision in Scott vs. Sanford? the supreme court decision was the his had to continue to be a slave.
3. Who was Emmett Till? he was a 14-year-old teen who enter a store and he blink at a white laddie who was living the store, then a couple
or more of white people beat on him in till he died for blinking at the white girl.
4. Many social scientists argue that we cannot be so judgmental of people who were racist in the past, because these people were “the product of their day and time”. These social scientists argue that racist people were racist, because society was racist in the past. Do you agree or disagree with these social scientists? Why or why not?
yes, I agree, because people in the past usually treated black/slave worst then animal so, when a kid see someone treating a slave/black bad they are going to do the same, because as people say a kid learns from what he see.
Part B:
5. What were some of the political and social barriers did the 54th Regiment have to fight? the 54th regiment had to fight for slave and
the fight was in between the North and the South. and another reason is that the 54th regiment black troops get pay less than the white troops did.
6. One of the political and social barriers that the 54th Regiment had to fight was the fact that the 54th was only allocated 2/3 of the pay of white troops. As a result, the 54th and its white officers refused to get paid, until the Union government paid them the same wages as white troops. Many of the 54th families suffered, because of this brave stance against racism. If you were one of the 54th soldiers would you have accepted less pay? Why or why not? yes and no. yes, because if my family is really suffering of hunger or of need of cloth, stuff like that I would if its a really need for my family. no, because if
I'm fighting for the same cause as whites, and even training harder than whites are and even taking a lot of crap from the whites soldiers and generals I would even ask for more than they are paying the whites.
7. The Emancipation Proclamation written by Abraham Lincoln on January 1, 1863, “as the nation approached its third year of bloody civil war. The proclamation declared "that all persons held as slaves" within the rebellious states "are, and henceforward shall be free." “Despite this expansive wording, the Emancipation Proclamation was limited in many ways. It applied only to states that had seceded from the Union, leaving slavery untouched in the loyal border states. It also expressly exempted parts of the Confederacy that had already come under Northern control”.
Many social scientists defend Lincoln’s limited emancipation of slaves, because there was the possibility that the five Border States (Delaware, Kentucky, Maryland, Missouri and West Virginia) would have seceded from the Union and joined the Confederacy if Lincoln had abolished slavery in the entire country. If these 5 Border States had joined the Confederacy, there is a chance that the Confederacy would have won the Civil War and today we would live in the Confederate States of America and not in the United States of America.
Question: If you were Abraham Lincoln would you have freed all the slaves? Why or why not? If I were Abraham Lincoln i would had freed the slave, because slave had suffered for many years and I belief that thats enough for slaves, they are not black race they are just like all of us they are human race, they are not animal or even worst, less than a animal they are just different color, so
if one of your mother would had been black and your father white and you come from your father ancestor genes, you would put your mother to be a slave or kill her?
(hint: Thomas Jefferson)
part C:
8. Many social scientists refer to the 13th, 14th, 15th Amendments as the “Second” Bill of Rights.
A: 13th Amendment: outlaws slavery.
14th Amendment: made important decisions about civil rights, immigration, and personal liberties.
15th Amendment: which guaranteed the right to vote regardless of race.
B. Do you agree or disagree with the notion that the 13th, 14th and 15th Amendments should be considered the “Second” Bill of Rights? yes, because the 13th, 14th, and 15th are giving the right
to the people of any race to vote with out being discriminated and i think is giving other races the right to come to this Country. (I think this, because the 14th Amendment say to make important decisions about civil rights, IMMIGRATION, and personal
liberties.)
C: Frederick Douglas was instrumental force in the abolitionist movement, the enlistment of black troops and the passage of the 13th, 14th and 15th Amendments. One of his most famous quotes is “Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will”. What do you think that Frederick Douglas meant by this quote? I think this quote means that you have the power to fight for what you want, but if you don't fight for what you want, you will never get what you are asking for.
Jean,
Good job to be the first in class to finish the online question. You saved your best work for your last question.
Part A:
The nine Supreme Court justices said no. Did you read the comic?
Number 4 is a well thought response.
Question 1: Should we forgive all of the racist past? Why or why not?
Part B:
For number 5 you need to give me a few more examples of political and social barriers that the 54th had to face besides less pay.
Question 2: Think about two things that the Union did to the 54th that the white troops did not have to do.
Question 3: Think about one way that the Confederacy try to persuade the black troops from the 54th and its white officers to quit fighting.
I am confused about number 6:
Question 4: What would you have done? Take the money or not?
Part C:
BRILLIANT WORK! Really amazing!
Well Done!
Mr. PPD
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but this on blog
frank
Part A:
1. who was Dred Scott? was a slave in the United States who sued unsuccessfully for his freedom in the infamous Dred Scott Sandford case of 1857. he when to a state that slavery was illegal with his owner and when he came back to a state that slavery was legall he said he was a free men.
2. What was the Supreme Court Decision in Scott vs. Sanford? The United States Supreme Court ruled seven to two against Scott, finding that neither he, or any person of African, could claim citizenship in the United States.
3. Who was Emmett Till? was a fourteen-year-old African American from Chicago, Illinois who was murdered by white peole because he wink at a white girl.
4. Many social scientists argue that we cannot be so judgmental of people who were racist in the past, because these people were “the product of their day and time”. These social scientists argue that racist people were racist, because society was racist in the past. Do you agree or disagree with these social scientists? Why or why not? I agree, because u arte not born smart therefore you most learn, so they people that are racist learned from they’re asserters or they learned from they’re friends and teachers. If a white person treads a black person bad and they’re kids see that they arte going to do the same thing.
Like jeans said “a kid learns from what he sees”
Part B:
5. what were some of the political and social barriers did the 54th Regiment have to fight? Some of the political and social barriers where that they did not get good pay, they where use as labors. And they got their uniforms late some of them had foot problems.
6. One of the political and social barriers that the 54th Regiment had to fight was the fact that the 54th was only allocated 2/3 of the pay of white troops. As a result, the 54th and its white officers refused to get paid, until the Union government paid them the same wages as white troops. Many of the 54th families suffered, because of this brave stance against racism. If you were one of the 54th soldiers would you have accepted less pay? Why or why not? Yes I would accept less pay, until I get my pay, because if my family needs any money I could get, because if they are suffering they need the money, any amount of money.
7. The Emancipation Proclamation written by Abraham Lincoln on January 1, 1863, “As the nation approached its third year of bloody civil war. The proclamation declared "that all persons held as slaves" within the rebellious states "are, and henceforward shall be free." “Despite this expansive wording, the Emancipation Proclamation was limited in many ways. It applied only to states that had seceded from the Union, leaving slavery untouched in the loyal Border States. It also expressly exempted parts of the Confederacy that had already come under Northern control”. (http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/featured_documents/emancipation_proclamation/)
Many social scientists defend Lincoln’s limited emancipation of slaves, because there was the possibility that the five Border States (Delaware, Kentucky, Maryland, Missouri and West Virginia) would have seceded from the Union and joined the Confederacy if Lincoln had abolished slavery in the entire country. If these 5 Border States had joined the Confederacy, there is a chance that the Confederacy would have won the Civil War and today we would live in the Confederate States of America and not in the United States of America.
Question: If you were Abraham Lincoln would you have freed all the slaves? Why or why not? I would have free all slaves because they have gone thrown many things in life and they use then as animals. Ok if the people using slaves as they’re pets where black would you like to be threaded like that?
Part C:
8. many social scientists refer to the 13th, 14th, 15th Amendments as the “Second” Bill of Rights.
A. What rights are guaranteed in each of these Amendments?
13th: abolished and continues to prohibit
14th: made important decisions about civil rights, immigration, and personal liberties.
15th: prohibits each government in the United States to prevent a citizen from voting based on that citizen's race
b. Do you agree or disagree with the notion that the 13th, 14th and 15th Amendments should be considered the “Second” Bill or Rights? Yes, because it change everything in the united states, now we don’t have slaves, people could come to this country and become citizens, and people could now vote is like a new America we didn’t have any of that in the past, so is a big change.
c. Frederick Douglas was instrumental force in the abolitionist movement, the enlistment of black troops and the passage of the 13th, 14th and 15th Amendments. One of his most famous quotes is “Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will”. What do you think that Frederick Douglas meant by this quote. I think jean is right to get what you want you have to fight for it and you will get it. Lest say I want to play basketball I have to try hard and I could reach my goal.
Frank,
Why do you have two very similar entries (but not exactly the same)? Which one should I read?
Mr. PPD
read second one
Frank
Jean Villalona
Part A:
The nine Supreme Court justices said no. Did you read the comic? yes Mr. DJ I just did, but to answer the question of " What was the Supreme Court Decision in Scott vs. Sanford?"I didn't read it, I just remember from class.
Question 1: Should we forgive all of the racist past? Why or why not?
no, we should never forgive all of the racist past, because that way people could show kids or even adults how people were against color person and how is compare to today racism. and because all the has happened is history and history
is something for people to look to the past and learn how time was.
Part B:
Question 2: Think about two things that the Union did to the 54th that the white troops did not have to do. the 54th had to work harder than white troops and the 54th had to do manual leaver.
Question 3: Think about one way that the Confederacy try to persuade the black troops from the 54th and its white officers to quit fighting. (I need help in this one)
Question 4: What would you have done? Take the money or not?
I wouldn't take the money until I get the same amount of money the white troops did, because if we are fighting the same cause we should get the same about. (we are not similar but the amount of money should be equal).
Ariana
Part A.
1.
Dred Scott was a slave in the United States who sued for his freedom.
2.
The supreme court decision in Scott vs. Sanford was that whether or not they were slaves they could never be citizens of the United States, and they could not be taken away from their owners without due process.
3.
Emmett Till was a fourteen-year-old African American from Chicago, Illinois who was murdered.
4.
I agree with this scientist because people are not born knowing things they learn things by the example of their family and other people like their friends and their teachers.
Part B.
5.
Some of the political and social barriers that the 54th had to fight were they did not get enough pay, they did not had good shoes, they did not had socks, they got their uniform late, and they were use as labors.
6.
I will accept the less pay because if were the man of the house I had to work hard and bring something to the house at list some money therefore my family don’t suffered hunger and I’ll wait until they paid me like how they paid the white soldiers.
7.
Yes I would freed all the slaves because I would be the president and I could do anything that I want, and I think that because they are black they don’t had to be treated as slaves or as animals.
Part C.
8.a.
13th: officially abolished and continues to prohibit slavery and involuntary servitude, except as punishment for a crime.
14th: make important decisions about civil rights, immigration, and personal liberties.
15th: prohibits each government in the United States to prevent a citizen from voting based on that citizen's race.
b.
I agree because I think that this amendments give rights to people with out been discriminated because of their skin color or their culture.
c.
I think the Frederick Douglas meant that you have to fight for anything that you want like slaves fought for their freedom and for racism to end.
haha, ariana copy me on number 3 almost the same...
Frank....snow =(
Frank Perez,
Part A:
When means cuando and went is the past tense of go. Dred Scott went to two different states with his owner. Read the comic strip for more information. Very good work over all.
Part B:
Why did some troops of the 54th had foot problems?
Would Frederick Douglas agree with your opinion for question 6? Why or why not?
For question 7 you need to consider the possible outcome. It is a very hard question. Free all the slaves and maybe loose the Civil War and have slavery be a permanent stable of American society? Would you still have freed the slaves in the Border States (I am not trying to persuade you opinion one way or the other, but you need to analyze the situation a little more carefully).
Part C:
Amazing work and great basketball analogy! It has been great having you in my class for the last three years! Answer my three question for a better grade!
Mr. PPD
Bravo
Jean Villalona
Great quote "all the has happened is history and history
is something for people to look to the past and learn how time was".
Part B:
The 54th also had to pass much harder physical exams! Think about what would happen if a black men was caught by the Confederacy wearing an Union uniform and having a weapon?
Brilliant Work
No more questions
Mr. PPD
Ariana,
Part A.
Why was Emmett Till murdered? What happen to the people who murdered Emmett Till?
Should we forgive all past racist actions? Why or why not?
Part B.
Would you have waited for equal pay or taken the 2/3 of the pay and protest for the rest?
There is a problem with question number 7. You need to think with the historical background.
Would you have freed all the slaves and potentially loose the war? You need to use history to defend your position.
Part C:
Great job on part C. You need to answer my questions for a better grade!
Mr. PPD
Rochely Sanchez
1-18-09
Part A:
1.Who was Dred Scott? Dred scott was a slave in the United States who sued unsuccessfully for his freedom in
the infamous Dred Scott v. Sandford case of 1857.
2. What was the Supreme Court Decision in Scott vs. Sanford? the decision of the supreme court of the united state that ruled that people of
African descent imported into the United States and held as slaves.
3.Who was Emmett Till? Emmet till he was a 14-year-old African American who enter in a store and he blink to a white laddie who was living the store
and she tell other white people that a black boy blink on her and they beaten and his eye had been gouged out.
4.Well i agree with the social scientist because people dont born being racist they poison their though and they talk bad about black
saying bad stuff to the white kid they only
now to poison their mind.
Part B:
5.What were some of the political and social barriers did the 54th Regiment have to fight? Some of the political and social barriers that the
54th regiment had to fight is because they didnt pay them good and they give them their uniform late but all white have everything there first then the
black.white people where in front of very frits then the black people.
6.yes , i would accept less payment because i have to support my family i wouldnt like to see my family suffuring of hungre,they need cloth i will accept
the offer of getting less pay then the white people.thats why i will accept to get less pay from the government.
7. If i was Abraham Lincoln i will let all the slave free because they are treated like is they are animal
but the thing that the white should know is that they are human like them but that only thing that is different in between them is their colors.i would like all them to be with there family so they can have their own department
and have their job, so their kids can go to school.
Part C:
8.A. What rights are guaranteed in each of these Amendments?
13th:abolished and continues to prohibit.
14th: made important decisions about civil rights, immigration, and personal liberties.
15th:prohibits each government in the United States to prevent a citizen from voting based on that citizen's race.
B: Do you agree or disagree with the notion that the 13th, 14th and 15th Amendments should be considered the “Second” Bill or Rights?
i agree with the 13th,14th,15th admendment because it give the right to all people to vote without being descriminated because of
their different culture or skin color.
c:i think that Frederick Douglas mean by this quote is that they have the power to fight and to let the slave free.And you fith for what you think suitable for you and for all.
Rochely,
Thank you for doing your work. Here comes the feedback!
Part A:
1. I have one question, what was Dred Scott arguing (why did he deserve his freedom)?
2. Ok. The Supreme Court Decision in this case was a little more detailed.
a. African Slaves and their descendants could not be American citizens (revoked by the 14th Amendment)
b. Slaves cannot take their masters to court (they were not human)
c. Slavery could not be illegal in federal territories
4. Should we forgive the racist past? Why or why not
Part B:
Good job on part 5. There were more social and political barriers by both the North and the South, but you did a good job.
6. Do you think that if the 54th had accepted less pay that black soldiers would still get less pay? What do you think?
7. I know that freeing the slaves as treating them as people and giving them the chance of being part of the "American Dream" was very important. But you (and almost everybody else didn't really answer my question).
Try to answer this question: If Lincoln had freed the all the slaves and the Border States had left the Union and join the confederacy, who do you think would have won the Civil War: North or South? Why?
Part C:
13th: Free all slaves
Which a amendments do you think are the most important, the Bill of Rights or the 13th, 14th and 15th Amendments? Why?
Great job on you final online question! Answer my questions to improve your grade. You know what being as smart, funny and hard working as you ought to be "cosa de gringo";)
Ariana Simancas
Part A.
Why was Emmett Till murdered?
He was murdered because he blink his eye to a white girl.
What happen to the people who murdered Emmett Till?
They were declare innocents, but later they admitted to committing the crime.
Should we forgive all past racist actions? Why or why not?
I think we should forgive all past racist actions because that was in the past and we should focus now in the future.
Part B.
Would you have waited for equal pay or taken the 2/3 of the pay and protest for the rest?
I would take the 2/3 of the pay and protest for the rest because like I said I would need the money for my family therefore they don’t had to suffer hunger.
There is a problem with question number 7. You need to think with the historical background.
Would you have freed all the slaves and potentially loose the war?
Yes I would freed all the slaves but I would stop the war therefore people don’t had to die and don’t potentially lose the war.
[veroniik;*]
Part A:
1. Who was Dred Scott?
*-Was a slave in the United States who sued unsuccessfully for his freedom in the infamous Dred Scott v. Sandford case of 1857.
2. What was the Supreme Court Decision in Scott vs. Sanford?
*-In March of 1857, the United States Supreme Court, led by Chief Justice Roger B. Taney, declared that all blacks -- slaves as well as free -- were not and could never become citizens of the United States
3. Who was Emmett Till?
*-was a fourteen-year-old African American from Chicago, Illinois who was murdered [1] in Money, Mississippi, a small town in the state's Delta region.
4. Many social scientists argue that we cannot be so judgmental of people who were racist in the past, because these people were “the product of their day and time”. These social scientists argue that racist people were racist, because society was racist in the past. Do you agree or disagree with these social scientists? Why or why not?
*-I disagree because i think we need a reason to be racist no just because we the society was racist in the past i doesn't mean that i have to be racist too .
Part B:
5. What were some of the political and social barriers did the 54th Regiment have to fight?
*-the 54th regiment had to fight for slave and the fight was in between the North and the South. and another reason is that they dont pay good money for the 54th regiment black troops .
6. One of the political and social barriers that the 54th Regiment had to fight was the fact that the 54th was only allocated 2/3 of the pay of white troops. As a result, the 54th and its white officers refused to get paid, until the Union government paid them the same wages as white troops. Many of the 54th families suffered, because of this brave stance against racism. If you were one of the 54th soldiers would you have accepted less pay? Why or why not?
*-no because if something happen to me like an accident and i have to go to the hospital or maybe i need spacial help with doctor i need money to pay it and i need money to help my family and if i died i would like to have a lot money for my family .
7. The Emancipation Proclamation written by Abraham Lincoln on January 1, 1863, “as the nation approached its third year of bloody civil war. The proclamation declared "that all persons held as slaves" within the rebellious states "are, and henceforward shall be free." “Despite this expansive wording, the Emancipation Proclamation was limited in many ways. It applied only to states that had seceded from the Union, leaving slavery untouched in the loyal border states. It also expressly exempted parts of the Confederacy that had already come under Northern control”. (http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/featured_documents/emancipation_proclamation/)
Many social scientists defend Lincoln’s limited emancipation of slaves, because there was the possibility that the five Border States (Delaware, Kentucky, Maryland, Missouri and West Virginia) would have seceded from the Union and joined the Confederacy if Lincoln had abolished slavery in the entire country. If these 5 Border States had joined the Confederacy, there is a chance that the Confederacy would have won the Civil War and today we would live in the Confederate States of America and not in the United States of America.
Question: If you were Abraham Lincoln would you have freed all the slaves? Why or why not?
*-if i were Abraham Lincoln i would only have freed all the slaves que no cometieron crimenes
and the others slaves no because they are bad persons and need to pay for what they do.
Part C:
8. Many social scientists refer to the 13th, 14th, 15th Amendments as the “Second” Bill of Rights.
a. What rights are guaranteed in each of these Amendments?
*-13th:abolished and continues to prohibit.
*-14th: made important decisions about civil rights- immigration- and personal liberties.
*-15th:prohibits the government to prevent a citizen from vote.
b. Do you agree or disagree with the notion that the 13th, 14th and 15th Amendments should be considered the “Second” Bill or Rights?
*-yes because the 13th 14th and 15th amendments are givin the oportunity to vote the people that are any color without discrimination and racism.
c. Frederick Douglas was instrumental force in the abolitionist movement, the enlistment of black troops and the passage of the 13th, 14th and 15th Amendments. One of his most famous quotes is “Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will”. What do you think that Frederick Douglas meant by this quote ?
*-it mean that if you have the power to condenar some one to the prison but the person don't have a demand you can't do nothing.
Ms. Simancas,
Great job. But next year you will be expected to analyze historical actions with much more details. You said "Yes I would freed all the slaves but I would stop the war therefore people don’t had to die and don’t potentially lose the war."
If Lincoln had agree to stop the war and freed the slaves only in the North, than today we would have two countries. A free United States of America and a country with slaves in the South named the Confederate States of America. We wouldn't want that, would we?
You don't need to reply.
Great final online question
Mr. PPD
Veronica,
Thanks for completing the online question. It seems that you copied and pasted some of the “research” questions, which you should never do unless you state your source and use “quotation” marks on words that are not yours. Remember this for next year! Here is the feedback.
Part A:
Why did Dred Scott argue that he should have been freed?
Why was Emmett Till murdered?
Great job on question 4!
Part B:
You need to tell me two additional barriers that the 54th had to overcome besides less pay (which I had stated on number 6). You need to think about two things that the 54th had to do that white troops did not.
Question 6 is a very hard question for us and the real soldiers of the 54th. Do you think Frederick Douglas would have agreed with you?
Should white people who have committed crimes become slaves? Please explain.
Part C:
You said that the 13th Amendment “abolished and continues to prohibit”… WHAT was abolished or prohibited?
15th based on what criteria did the government no longer have the ability to prevent people from voting?
Part the last question you should try it again. Look at what some of your classmates wrote!
Mr. PPD
Frank Perez
Why did some troops of the 54th had foot problems?
because they did not give them new shoes and the had to use the same ones for weeks or mouth.
Would Frederick Douglas agree with your opinion for question 6? Why or why not? no because he said that “Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will” i think he wouldnt agree with me because he wants black to fight and try and his right power concedes of nothing without a demand it means that you have to try.
For question 7 you need to consider the possible outcome. It is a very hard question. Free all the slaves and maybe loose the Civil War and have slavery be a permanent stable of American society? Would you still have freed the slaves in the Border States (I am not trying to persuade you opinion one way or the other, but you need to analyze the situation a little more carefully). if the thing is like that i would redder lose the civil war, i would try because you dont know what could have if you win, you have to try to succeed, because i dont want slavery to continue because slaves had suffer a lot.
1. Dred Scott was a slave in the Unite Statesthat sued for freedom.
2. The decision in the supreme court between scott vs. sanford was to stay as slaves.
3. Emmett is the guy that got his eye cut of because he wink ata white lady well he actually got murdered.
4. Yes, I agree because slave is really bad they treated them worse than people in jail. So if a kid sees a owner or a person hitting someone really badthey will actually do it. The will do the samething because most of the kids learn from what they see.
5. Some of the political and social barriers that the 54th had to fight was for clothest,get money well get the same amount as blacks and also for socks and shoes.
6. I wont accept the less payment because we should get the same amout as white i mean there not betterthan us or their not special and were humans were not animals.
7. Yes i will free slave because if im the president i will because i shouldnt let them leave that miserable life and they have right so yeah i will freed them.
8. a. 13th- neither slavery nor involuntary servitude except as punishment for crime.
14th- make important decisions.
15th- The right of citizens of the united states to vote shall not to be denied.
b. I agree because it gives people the right no matter skin color or other things in their body.
c. I think that federick douglass meant that power is nevernough and it will never be.
Francys,
Thank you for doing your work, but I must tell that it seems awfully short and very rushed. I know that you can do better. Here is the feedback!
Part A:
What was Dred Scott’s argument in the Supreme Court?
Question number 2 needs more explanation.
Emmett Till’s eye was not cut. It was destroyed by vicious attacks. What happened to the people who killed Emmett Till? Where was Emmett Till from? How old was he when he was brutally murdered?
Should we forgive the racist past? Why or why not?
Part B:
For number 6 you wrote “I wont accept the less payment because we should get the same amout as white i mean there not better than us or their not special and were humans were not animals” Would you have not accepted even if your family needed the money?
For number 7 you wrote “Yes i will free slave because if im the president i will because i shouldnt let them leave that miserable life and they have right so yeah i will freed them.” Even if it mean loosing the Border States and maybe the Civil War?
Part C
“14th- make important decisions.” ABOUT WHAT? DON’T ALL AMENDMENTS MAKE IMPORTANT DECISIONS?
“15th- The right of citizens of the united states to vote shall not to be denied”. BASED ON WHAT FACTOR?
For the question on Frederick Douglas try it again and look at some of your friends answers.
Mr. PPD
[veroniik;*]--feedback!
Part A:
Why did Dred Scott argue that he should have been freed?
-*so he can took his owner to the supreme court and told the judge that he is a slave and he wanted freedom but the jury or judge say no because they are also slave owners too.
Why was Emmett Till murdered?
*-Emmett till was murdered because he did a hiss to a white girl.and after 4 days her step brother and two boys more went to Emmett till and kill him and his uncle les rogo que no se lo llebaran but one of the guys say you keep slipping niggers .
Part B:
You need to tell me two additional barriers that the 54th had to overcome besides less pay (which I had stated on number 6). You need to think about two things that the 54th had to do that white troops did not.
*-they don't has a uniform to fight at time.
*-they don't have more soldiers then white troops
Question 6 is a very hard question for us and the real soldiers of the 54th. Do you think Frederick
Douglas would have agreed with you?
*-Mr. Pitts-Dilley i dont get the question may you explain it to me please/.
Should white people who have committed crimes become slaves? Please explain.
*-I don't mean just white people i mean all people that have committed crimes no matter what color of raze .
Part C:
You said that the 13th Amendment “abolished and continues to prohibit”… WHAT was abolished or prohibited?TO PROHIBITED THE THE GOVERNMENT TO NO DEJAR PEOPLE FROM DIFFERENT COLOR OR RAZE TO VOTE .
15th based on what criteria did the government no longer have the ability to prevent people from voting?
*-NO BECAUSE VOTE IS A RIGHT
15th are giving the right
to the people of any race to vote with out being discriminated and i think is giving other races the right to come to this Country.
Veronica,
Thank you for submitting you feedback response so promptly.
Part A:
When I asked why did Dred Scott argue that he should have been freed, you wrote “so he can took his owner to the supreme court and told the judge that he is a slave and he wanted freedom but the jury or judge say no because they are also slave owners too.” He did so because his owner took him to free states where slavery was illegal.
Part B:
The 54th had to pass much harder physical exams than white troops!
For question 6 you said that you would have taken less pay so your family wouldn’t suffer. Frederick Douglas once said that “power concedes nothing without demand. It never has and it never will”. Analyzing these words to try to answer my question.
THERE WILL BE NO CRIME IF VERONICA ARANGO IS PRESIDENT!
Part C:
13th abolished slavery!
15th can’t stop people from voting based on race (racist south found other ways to keep people from voting).
Much Better. Answer question 6 for even a better grade!
Mr. PPD
Thank you!
jajjaja Mr. Pitts-Dilley thankz you 4 explain it to me :)
jajajja Mr. Pitts-Dilley thank you for explain it to me att:veronica
My feedback
Rochely Sanchez
1-21-09
1.I have one question, what was Dred Scott arguing (why did he deserve his freedom)? Dred Scott deserve his freedom because he fought so all the slave can be free and they could be with their family.
4. Should we forgive the racist past? Why or why not? I think that we shouldn’t forgive the racist past because they treat the black bad and does people are human like us the only thing that is different is that they have another skin color but they still human they are not animals.
Part B:
6. Do you think that if the 54th had accepted less pay that black soldiers would still get less pay? What do you think? I think that the 54th wouldn’t accept less pay for them because they just want the money they don’t care if the black soldiers get less pay they only want to get their pay all completely.
7. If Lincoln had freed the all the slaves and the Border States had left the Union and join the confederacy, who do you think would have won the Civil War: North or South? Why? I think that the one will won the civil war is the north because the thing that Abraham Lincoln want is to free all the slave and that they fought with the south is to free all the slave.
Part C:
Which amendments do you think are the most important, the Bill of Rights or the 13th, 14th and 15th Amendments? Why? I think that the most important amendment is the bill of right because it gives people some right but not all things are accepted by the bill of right I think that the most important is bill of rights.
I try my best I didn’t understand some of the question but I try to answer all.
~Part 1: Dred Scott And Emmett Till
1. Who was Dred Scott? Dred Scott Was a slave in the United States, Who unsuccessfully fought for his freedom on his case.
But Dred Scot had an owner, and his owner took him to a territory/state where slavery was
illegal, so he said Doesn't that make me a free man?
2. What was the Supreme Court Decision in Scott vs. Sanford? The United States Supreme Court ruled seven to two against Scott, finding that neither he, nor any person of African ancestry,
could claim citizenship in the United States, and that therefore Scott could not bring suit in federal court under diversity
of citizenship rules. Moreover, Scott's temporary residence outside Missouri did not effect his emancipation under the Missouri Compromise.
3. Who was Emmet Till? Emmet till was a fourteen year old boy, from Chicago, Illinois that was murder for winking at a white lady while he was at store.
4. Many social scientists argue that we cannot be so judgmental of people who were racist in the past, because these people were “the product of their day and time”. These social scientists argue that racist people were racist, because society was racist in the past. Do you agree or disagree with these social scientists? Why or why not?
Yes, i agree with these Social Scientists, although it may not be seemed in the majority of the world but there are still stereotypes people out there, and slaves as well. So the point is that today people think they are superior than the others because of their race. Is being racist a tradition?
~Part B: Emancipation Proclamation & Book Undying Glory: The Story of the 54th Massachusetts Regiment.
5. What were some of the political and social barriers did the 54th Regiment have to fight? The 54th Regiment from Massachusetts has to fight for several things like; The Emancipation Proclamation?, Riots? Equality: "all men are equal"? Civil Rights?.
6. One of the political and social barriers that the 54th Regiment had to fight was the fact that the 54th was only allocated 2/3 of the pay of white troops. As a result, the 54th and its white officers refused to get paid, until the Union government paid them the same wages as white troops. Many of the 54th families suffered, because of this brave stance against racism. If you were one of the 54th soldiers would you have accepted less pay? Why or why not?
Yes, if i were a very poor black slave that had nothing then yea i would get the money, so am gaining not loosing. and there is a say and it goes "If i have nothing..Then i have nothing to loose" so TAKE THE MONEY! (Although is very unfair and racist).
7. The Emancipation Proclamation written by Abraham Lincoln on January 1, 1863, “as the nation approached its third year of bloody civil war. The proclamation declared "that all persons held as slaves" within the rebellious states "are, and henceforward shall be free." “Despite this expansive wording, the Emancipation Proclamation was limited in many ways. It applied only to states that had seceded from the Union, leaving slavery untouched in the loyal border states. It also expressly exempted parts of the Confederacy that had already come under Northern control”.
Many social scientists defend Lincoln’s limited emancipation of slaves, because there was the possibility that the five Border States (Delaware, Kentucky, Maryland, Missouri and West Virginia) would have seceded from the Union and joined the Confederacy if Lincoln had abolished slavery in the entire country. If these 5 Border States had joined the Confederacy, there is a chance that the Confederacy would have won the Civil War and today we would live in the Confederate States of America and not in the United States of America.
Question: If you were Abraham Lincoln would you have freed all the slaves? Why or why not? If i were Abraham Lincoln i wouldn't have freed all slaves, because according to the passage the; "If these 5 Border States had joined the Confederacy, there is a chance that the Confederacy would have won the Civil War" meaning that slavery wouldn't have an end?
~Part C: Frederick Douglas and the “Second” Bill of Rights
8. Many social scientists refer to the 13th, 14th, 15th Amendments as the “Second” Bill of Rights.
a. What rights are guaranteed in each of these Amendments? The 13th amendment to the United States Constitution officially abolished and continues to prohibit slavery.
The 14th Amendment to the United States Constitution intended to secure the rights of former slaves.
The 15th Amendment to the United States Constitution prohibits each government in the United States from denying a citizen the right to vote based on that citizen's race or color.
b. Do you agree or disagree with the notion that the 13th, 14th and 15th Amendments should be considered the “Second” Bill of Rights?
No, i DO NOT agree with the notion because the 2nd bill of right has nothing to do with slavery. The second bill of rights was mostly based on jobs, assuring equality, and freedom. How does that relate to; Racism? and Slavery? (13th, 14th, and 15th Amendments).
c. Frederick Douglas was instrumental force in the abolitionist movement, the enlistment of black troops and the passage of the 13th, 14th and 15th Amendments. One of his most famous quotes is “Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will”. What do you think that Frederick Douglas meant by this quote that if you do not fight for your rights as a human and make requests for it than dont admit what you are?
~Kenny Brea
-January 21, 2009
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Francys Perez
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1.Dred Scott’s argument in the supreme court was Well lets start were it begin fisrt he came with his wife and childreds the case was in State of Missouri but he was hels as a slave he wanted to give him freedom and him and family. In the first case the judges had let other slave free but not him. He wanted to be free but he couldnt. For him to be free he needed the decision from the court. But he begin to be slave.
2.I know his eye weren’t cut of what I was trying to say was that they mess them up. The people that murdered Emmett Till were free because they said they didn’t do nothing until they found out and they went to jail. Emmett Till was from Illinois. Emmett Till was 14 years old when he got murdered so that mean he didn’t have a lot to live he didn’t actually have fun when he was little and never did.
3. In my opinion I will say yes and no. No because if the say to forgive them they might not stop and also they did so many bad stuff to the black people for no reason. I will also pick yes because some people aren’t racist. And not all of them have to pay for others. This is why I pick both but most of it yes because is not every one fault.
4. Well your actually right I wasn’t thinking about what was happening to my family. So yes I will take it but im not going to stop until they pay us equally and treat us equally too. I mean just because they were white that doesn’t mean there special. But for now I would take it so my families can safe there life.
5. Actually this is a hard question because there black they should have rights just like whites do but you know I think I don’t care if I loose the border states and maybe the civil war im still going to let they free and let them have their freedom because if im the president and I can make changes I would make them so my answer is yes I will freed them.
6.The 14th amendment is to make important decision in civil war, immigration, and personal liberties.
The 15th amendment prohibits the states and the federal government from using a citizen's race
7. I think in c. I think jean and frank are right because when you want something you need to fight for it and never give up in what you want. Just like Martin Luther King he fought to end racism because that was his dream well that was part of his dream.
*Hanny Cruz
1/22/2009
PARt;A
1.Who was Dred Scott? Scott dred was an slave in the Unite States that sued for freedom.
2. What was the Supreme Court Decision in Scott vs. Sanford?
The case before the court was that of Dred Scott v. Sanford. Dred Scott a slave who had lived in the free state.
3. Who was Emmett Till?
Emmett till was a 14 year old African American.the got kill because he blink his eyes on a white girl & manny people kill him intill he was dead. they throuht a machine in his faces.
4. Many social scientists argue that we cannot be so judgmental of people who were racist in the past, because these people were “the product of their day and time”. These social scientists argue that racist people were racist, because society was racist in the past. Do you agree or disagree with these social scientists? Why or why not? yeah im agree because people in the pass used to treat the black slave bad.
PARt; B
5. What were some of the political and social barriers did the 54th Regiment have to fight?
the 54th regiment had to fight for slave.the fight was in between the North and the south. and they get less money & the white people get more money then them.
6.One of the political and social barriers that the 54th Regiment had to fight was the fact that the 54th was only allocated 2/3 of the pay of white troops. As a result, the 54th and its white officers refused to get paid, until the Union government paid them the same wages as white troops. Many of the 54th families suffered, because of this brave stance against racism. If you were one of the 54th soldiers would you have accepted less pay? Why or why not?NO because we should be pay the same amount as they are paying the white troops.every body should have equal rights!
7. The Emancipation Proclamation written by Abraham Lincoln on January 1, 1863, “as the nation approached its third year of bloody civil war. The proclamation declared "that all persons held as slaves" within the rebellious states "are, and henceforward shall be free." “Despite this expansive wording, the Emancipation Proclamation was limited in many ways. It applied only to states that had seceded from the Union, leaving slavery untouched in the loyal border states. It also expressly exempted parts of the Confederacy that had already come under Northern control”. (http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/featured_documents/emancipation_proclamation/)
Many social scientists defend Lincoln’s limited emancipation of slaves, because there was the possibility that the five Border States (Delaware, Kentucky, Maryland, Missouri and West Virginia) would have seceded from the Union and joined the Confederacy if Lincoln had abolished slavery in the entire country. If these 5 Border States had joined the Confederacy, there is a chance that the Confederacy would have won the Civil War and today we would live in the Confederate States of America and not in the United States of America.
Question: If you were Abraham Lincoln would you have freed all the slaves? Why or why not?
If I were Abraham Lincoln i would had freed the slave because slave had suffered for many years and I belief that thats enough for slaves and they pass thrught alot they hit him they have to do so much this so that why if i were Abraham lincoln i would freed the slaves.
Part C:
8. Many social scientists refer to the 13th, 14th, 15th Amendments as the “Second” Bill of Rights.
a. What rights are guaranteed in each of these Amendments?
13th Amendments:abolished and continues to prohibit
14th Amendments:made important decisions about civil rights, immigration, and personal liberties.
15th Amendments:15th: prohibits each government in the United States to prevent a citizen from voting based on that citizen's race.
1. Who was Dred Scott? Dred scott wasa slave who was fighting for the freedom of their race.
2. What was the Supreme Court Decision in Scott vs. Sanford? Was the he couldn’t be a citizen because his skin color only according to the due process.
3. Who was Emmett Till? Was a black 14 years old that was killed in a store because he was with he is girl friend or a girl that liked , they burned him they stabe him hang and a lot of things that you don’t even want to know.
4. Many social scientists argue that we cannot be so judgmental of people, who were racist in the past, because these people were “the product of their day and time”. These social scientists argue that racist people were racist, because society was racist in the past. Do you agree or disagree with these social scientists? Why or why not?
I disagree because just because the society is racist you don’t have to be racist ,they’re racist because their friends make them or somebody close to them.
Part B:
5. What were some of the political and social barriers did the 54th Regiment have to fight? The 54th had all the people were black the leader slave that were capture were send to an island like Haiti , Africa, and to the south their paid less, they had to fight for slave.
6. One of the political and social barriers that the 54th Regiment had to fight was the fact that the 54th was only allocated 2/3 of the pay of white troops. As a result, the 54th and its white officers refused to get paid, until the Union government paid them the same wages as white troops. Many of the 54th families suffered, because of this brave stance against racism. If you were one of the 54th soldiers would you have accepted less pay? Why or why not? yes and no. yes, because if my family is really suffering of hunger or of need of cloth, stuff like that I would if its a really need for my family. no, because if
I'm fighting for the same cause as whites, and even training harder than whites are and even taking a lot of crap from the whites soldiers and generals I would even ask for more than they are paying the whites.
I disagree because we should Have equal paid with whites and if I was poor and I need to feed my Family I am not going to be able to do it because we are not paid equal .
7. The Emancipation Proclamation written by Abraham Lincoln on January 1, 1863, “as the nation approached its third year of bloody civil war. The proclamation declared "that all persons held as slaves" within the rebellious states "are, and henceforward shall be free." “Despite this expansive wording, the Emancipation Proclamation was limited in many ways. It applied only to states that had seceded from the Union, leaving slavery untouched in the loyal border states. It also expressly exempted parts of the Confederacy that had already come under Northern control”.
Many social scientists defend Lincoln’s limited emancipation of slaves, because there was the possibility that the five Border States (Delaware, Kentucky, Maryland, Missouri and West Virginia) would have seceded from the Union and joined the Confederacy if Lincoln had abolished slavery in the entire country. If these 5 Border States had joined the Confederacy, there is a chance that the Confederacy would have won the Civil War and today we would live in the Confederate States of America and not in the United States of America.
Question: If you were Abraham Lincoln would you have freed all the slaves? Why or why not? If I were Abraham Lincoln i would had freed the slave, because slave had suffered for many years and I belief that thats enough for slaves, they are not black race they are just like all of us they are human race, they are not animal or even worst, less than a animal they are just different color, so
if one of your mother would had been black and your father white and you come from your father ancestor genes, you would put your mother to be a slave or kill her?
(hint: Thomas Jefferson)
yes , I will freed all slaves so they can go back with their families and be happy without no problem.no because that’s my mother I wouldn’t do thet to her.
karina santana
Mr. Perez,
Frederick Douglas would have disgreed with you! He would explain that if we want the same pay, then we can't accept nothing less or we will always get less pay!
I agree with 100%, how do we know that the North would loose even if the Border States have seceeded? Perhaps, if the Border States had secceeded the North would have call all blacks as true brothers to fight and win a war as one nation and Jim Crow and Segregation would never have happened!
Mr. PPD
Ms. Sanchez,
Dred Scott never fought in the Civil War and he was not a member of the 54th! His owner took him to two states where slavery as prohibited, so Mr. Scott argued that he should have been set free (which the racist Supreme Court as you pointed out disagreed)!
I think what you meant is that we should forgive BUT NEVER FORGET!
Part B:
I am confused with number 6! If you want you can explain to me again!
Part C:
I know that you think you " try my best I didn’t understand some of the question but I try to answer all". I need you to realize that your best is much higher than this. You have came a long way since stating that "leer es cosa de gringo", but the sky is the limit for you!
Good Job
Mr. PPD
Mr. Brea,
It has been a pleasure! But we still have homeroom, soccer and St. Croix together!
Feedback:
Part A:
1.Not to a RACIST Supreme Court! The facts didn't matter!
2. Did you read the minorit opinion?
4. Many social scientists argue that we cannot be so judgmental of people who were racist in the past, because these people were “the product of their day and time”. These social scientists argue that racist people were racist, because society was racist in the past. Do you agree or disagree with these social scientists? Why or why not?
3. Traditions do not have to be smart, sensitive and worth repeating!
Part B:
5. Well. I see a little laziness here! But you are correct! But I did want specific examples from the book Undying Glory such as the fact that if a black soldier was captured wearing a Union uniform, he would be executed by the South!
6. Good explanation and we have to agree that it is a hard choice!
7. Good point, but who knows maybe the North would have call all blacks as equal brothers and fought to truly free all slaves and end discrimination and second class citizenship, which could potentially have meant that Jim Crow and Plessy v. Ferguson would never have existed. But I can only hope and play "Monday morning history quaterback"!
Part C:
There is no "Second" Bill of Rights. Some make the point that the 13th, 14th and 15th Amendments ought to be considered as important as the first ten amendments to the Constitution itself. Good Interpretation on the Frederick Douglas quote (to me on of the greatest famous people to have ever lived).
Mr. PPD
Dear Ms. Perez,
Great work on the feedback, but you can't wait until the last possible second at the next level (HS).
Feedback:
1. it seems that you reserached this time, but there are still some missing parts.
2. Great job on number 2. I like to think that because people like Emmett Till, we have a black president today (so his life was not completely wasted by the hands of ignorants).
3. Well done!
4. Wll done! It is a very hard choice and I applaud the 54th for their sacrifice and hardship!
5. Francys Perez for president! THIS IS THE CHANGE THAT I WANT!
7. BRAVO!
Check your grade!
Mr. PPD
Ms. Cruz,
I hope that you can become a leader during science class! Ms. Paysnick is here to help you get ready for a very hard science MCAS in High School!
Feedback:
Part A:
1. What was Dred Scott's argument? Not enough!
2. What was the Court's decision?
3. Good job.
4. Very short answer! Why did people in the past treat blacks poorly? Who should we blame, individuals or society or both?
PART B:
5. Well, I already had stated on number six that they got less pay. Remember how much less? What about other barriers?
6. Very short again! You can do it better! Too rushed and you did not look critically enough at the question!
7. Even if it meant loosing the Civil War?
Part C:
13th Abolsihed what?
14th Like?
MISSING FREDERICK DOUGLAS.
Mr. PPD
Karina,
I hate sounding like a scratched CD or corrupted audio file, but once again you waited until the last possible moment!
Feedback:
PART A:
1. Why? What was Dred Scott arguing?
2. Citizenship is only part of the decision.
3. Emmett did not know the girl!
4. Arern't you contradicting your opinion? Or you just rushed too much?
Part B:
5. Some of the captured soldiers were sold into slavery to other countries! Good memory!
6. Great job! I believe that if you spend more time all your answers would sound as great as number six does!
7. Haha. Great short at Thomas Jefferson! But would you have freed the slaves even if it meant loosing the Border States and the war?
PART C: ???????????
You have until tomorrow afternoon to complete part C and maybe answer some of my questions.
Mr. PPD
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