What is a more effective way to bring change to society?
Martin Luther King Jr.'s civil disobedience (peaceful protest)or Malcom X's believe in arm struggle (fight)?
Think about this question in regards to the Civil Rights movement.
The first part of the assignment is to explain your position. Your answer must be at least one paragraph (five complete sentences) long. I am not looking for quantity. I am expecting quality! Obviously, if you do not write enough then you will not be able to make your point!
The second part is to respond to someone who disagrees with you (argue against their position)!
35 comments:
On my opinion to bring change to a society is by doing it the Malcolm X way by fighting physically. It is a way the will back up people for what you want, and the was what Malcolm X was trying to do. So I’m going to follow his method. I’m on the side of Malcolm X because sometimes people don’t understand the words and the peace that someone has. If you come peacefully to a person the hates you, the thing that they would do is hit you, so you should defend yourself not just take hits like a coward. I know the Martin Luther King Jr. was a civil disobedience, all he did was talk and talk he resolve stuff but it was in a very slow way. That another thing that I don’t like about solving problems by talking is a very slow way and by fighting you solve problems maybe in 5 minutes or less and the people the was looking problems with you would be afraid and they won’t look for trouble again. I know the talking is a respectful way of solving problems but if people don’t understand you just have to fight and make things right. For example wars are fighting ways of solving problems and many things have been resolve in wars like Hitler, if there wasn’t a war maybe we all be dead. Other Example is Civil War, without a war all color people would be working in the fields and latinos in this country wouldn’t have opportunities and would be working in the fields to and everybody in the class is included. That’s why I support Malcolm X method.
In my opinion I think Malcon X's way was better.Because in that time period the black people suffer a lot just because the white people didn't like them just because their color skin, so I think the black people didn't have to deal with that if they didn't want to.because the white people hit them,trow rocks at them and they didn't fight back just because Martin Luther King Jr believe that if they don't fight the white people would look them different and they would stop,okay he did stop the racism.But anyways you think I would do like Jesus said? if someone hit you put the other side.No way I would hit them back I would let them to treat me like a toy that they can do whatever they want with me.I'm not an slave. So that's what I think about Martin Luther King Jr' way to solve the problems.
The more effective way to bring change to society it was Martin Luther King for many reasons.
First than all because he was a brave fighter for the equal rights.
Martin Luther King did not give up until he can achieve his goal.Martin Luther King was trying to fight for the equal rights in the United States and let the white people that all the people is the same don't matter the kind of color that the people have.Meanwhile Martin Luther King was a person when he wants Something he fight for it
Thus Martin Luther King foght for the equal rights in one way where he get a lots benefits without fighiting.Besides other fact very important is when Martin Luther King the speech which is very famous that is called " HAVE A DREAM ..." where he express himself like he has a dream without offend anyone
Finally Martin Luther King is the more effective way to bring change to society for many reasons and i love it how he did it because he knew that he did won anything fighting and I'm totally agree with Martin Luther King.
ATT:Karen
Luis,
Your answer was very thoughtful and the Hitler example was a great idea! Did you know that Europe tried to use diplomacy and peace talks with Hitler for nearly five years until Germany invaded Poland and England declared War on Germany?
I will not give you any further feedback, one of your classmates might. If your classmates who believe that civil disobedience is a more effective way do not post their comments by Wednesday night, then I will post something for you to reply before I leave for North Carolina on Thursday morning.
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El Alex,
Please don't forget to put your name next time German! Either that or update your profile! German, as I told Luis I will let your classmates send you feedback. The expression you were looking for is "give the other cheek". Now I believe it was a little rushed!
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Karen,
Thanks for submitting your post. Now You, Luis and German can get ready to debate each other!
Mr. Pitts-Dilley
Is more effective way to bring change to society is without fighting. Because fighting bring more problems and more violence. Is more better to be in peace is like to do it in the right way. I’m with martin Luther king Jr.
Martin Luther king did the right thing or decision. First of all martin Luther king show to a lot of people like me. That not always we need to use violence to bring a change to the society. Because without violence you can get a lot of thing. For example Malcolm X’s he fought with violence and he get to his point. But martin Luther king was a man who fought without fighting and just with a speech he gets in the hart of a lot of people. And also in the whole-united state the people remember martin Luther king like a peaceful man to what he did. He was kill but everyone remembers him like brave man. That way I’m with martin Luther king because without violence got more point than Malcolm X’s. And also Malcolm shown to the people that with fighting we can get to our point. But is not true because is like he bring more violence to the people. And that is not correct.
Jessica Rodriguez
In my opinion Malcolm X is more effective to bring a change to the society because the way he acts is the way that almost all people understand. I understand is better to do civil disobedience but many people don’t understand and doesn’t pay attention to you when you are talking they just say oo listen to this guy if he stupid or what? But if you use Malcolm X way it will work. I say it will work because if you beat up that people that people for sure would listen to you, and then will say yes he is right. Also if Malcolm X wouldn’t fight people wouldn’t listen to him. Also if he didn’t fight he would not be able to do civil disobedience. If people hit you physically it would not be good to live it like that because they would think that they can destroy us and that is not sure we can be better than them. If I was him will did the same.
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Mariel Paulino (beba)
Ok Luis you telling that Malcolm X's way were better because he used violence. But let me tell you something boy you know that without fighting you can get to your point faster. Martin didn't use violence and he we celebrate his holiday. You know why. Because without violence he get in to the hart of the people just saying a speech. Martin Luther kings show to a lot of people that without violence we can go more far like he did, without violence. Violence brings more problems ok Luis if you have a problem with your family for some reasons. And you want to resolved right in what way you will resolved with violence or without violence.. Think about that you have more decision to resolve the right thing is to talk with education like martin Luther king did. Ok.
Jessica.
Thanks Yessica and Mariel,
Your classmates will give you a little feedback (debate).
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LUIS,
Why don't you rebuttal what Yessica wrote you!
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I’m totally disagree with Luis ’s response for many reasons. First than all you have to understand that you don’t get any benefit fighting physically , nevertheless you can get a lot benefits without fight physically. Consequently tell me something what we celebrate in January 20 on behalf of whom we celebrate this day tell me
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att Karen Alvarado
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i'm sorry but i'm totally desagree with for many reasons.First than because let me rell you something that Ithink is no clear to you, Mariel no everything can be solved fighting physically and you saying that you solve everything fighting physically and Mariel you can get a lot benefits without fight physically. Mariel remember what I said you don’t win anything fighting physically
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Att:Karen
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To Yessica
Yessica you are saying that Martin Luther KIng Jr. way was a faster way of dealing with the white Americans but tell how long did it took him to get into people hearts almost all his life and he was 39 years old, but if do it the Malcolm X way you will do it faster like on gangs or fight, if you fight and win they will leave you alone and they would be scare for as long as you know them, and that was what Malcolm was trying to do with the white Americans, backing them up, so they would never mess with black people, and they could be treat with respect like a normal human being. And that was what Malcolm X method was trying to do. Make things right by using things like everyone would use if people don't understand and hurt them at the same time and it don't matter if people have a celebration because Christopher Columbus didn't do the right thing and they are celebrating his holiday as a good thing. So everyone has his method and for me the right thing is violence as they just to use it with the black people back them. But for me I should use violent if people use it with me and like before they use to do it why not use it with them, we all have equal rights don't we. Malcolm X did the right thing but people wouldn't take it as serious as MLK. The faster and better you do it the more respect you would have for other. And that was waht Malcolm X did as a regualr man.
To Karen
Like I said to Yessica celebrating a person holiday it don’t matter because some people that we celebrate now were bad back then and we still celebrate then. Another thing is, that you can get benefits from fighting physically, and one of them is getting respect from others and the other one, is not being bothered again by the same person or witness in your life.
Luis
FeDy PiMENTEL
208
8TH
May 23,2008
A more effective way to bring change to society is trying to leave in peace and stop racism in the world.
I believe that Martin Luther King Jr's civil disobedience was the best way of stopping the segregation between colored and whites during the 19th-20th century in the United States. One reason why this is the best idea is because when you fight you are putting your life in risks but also your family life. Second, when people fight back they hurt them selves but in the way of not using violence this didn't happen.To conclude, i agree with Martin Luther King Jr.'s civil disobedience. Malcolm X's didn't have a safe idea of ending the segregation because he just wanted to fight fiscally affecting people life. Many people used Malcolm X's idea of fighting and I can just guess that they didn't have a good benefit.
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Martin Luther king Jr.’s civil disobedience (peaceful protest) is more effective way to bring change to society. First of all, fighting you don’t resolve anything just hit each other and never get a good conclusion .For example, if you hit me and I hit you we never are going to stop fighting but if I use my intelligent ways such as talking and arguing or just showing them that you are better than them by being more educated or being professional in something that they think that is difficult to you, then they are going to realize that there is not difference. secondly, if you want to stop racism you can’t fight back when racism people attack you. The word racism is like separate, enemy, hate, and is just because the skin color and if there is no friendship in racism, do you think there will be if you fight back ? I don’t think so and if you want to stop racism we have to be together because we are the same, but if you fight back you are demonstrate that Black and whites can’t be together. For example, if I am black and I fight with a white person that mean that I can’t deal with a white person such as in my own race , if I can deal with my own race that are humans why I can‘t with other kind of color?. Finally if we use violence we don’t get anything good of it. To conclude, Martin Luther king Jr.’s civil disobedience (peaceful protest ) is more effective way to bring change to society .
I respectfully disagree with Luis Nuñez for many reasons. First of all, Luis are you thinking Martin Luther king didn’t resolve anything in a slow way because Malcolm x was doing the same thing that Martin Luther king was doing and who resolve the problem first well not first who RESOLVE the problem because Malcolm x didn’t resolve anything meanwhile this is one of the reasons that I disagree with you .secondly, fighting you don’t resolve things is worse because you don’t get to a positive conclusion just fight and never talk to communicate in which situation you are going to stay. finally, another thing that I was going to say fighting don’t resolve anything but killing it does because you are talking about war, not about this and in war people fight to kill and in this situation they are talking about fight but not to kill and it is very difference ok and also why you don’t put yourself in a situation like that for example if your mother hit you are you going to hit her back ????? Or resolve the problem in other way :- >
A more effective way to bring change to society is not using violence.
I agree with Martin Luther King Jr.’s civil disobedience because things get solved better in a peace way. Also I think that although Martin Luther King didn’t reach his goal he did something good because he made any change in the world. One reason of why I think that Martin Luther King way was better because when people fight they don’t get any good results in the way that fighting can make more problems. In my opinion another way to solve problems is ignoring people. For example, the first day that Elizabeth went to the high school, people was yelling things to her and what she did was to ignore them and what she did was a good way to not cause any problems. So, in my opinion a good way to change society is using civil disobedience because fighting don’t bring any results in some cases because one case in which fighting is a good form to solve problems is in war because from there you can define the results by identifying who won the war.
Genesis Peña.
In my opinion I think the best way of bringing a change to the society is the way Martin Luther King did. When you want something the better way it can be done is talking and making decisions because if you fight physically you can get hurt and even go to jail. But when you talk to people they can’t do anything to you. So why we fight physically if we can shut up people’s mouth just with words? I don’t agree with Malcolm X way of bringing change to society because wars and fights the only thing they can bring are problems and death to innocent people. Although they both did wonderful input to the United States' citizen but however people remember more Martin Luther King because the way he did things was a method that not every person can do, Martin Luther King convince a lot of people that the violence against black people had to stop. Maybe Malcolm X was right wanting to change the society but the way he did was wrong, he believed that fighting physically was right but he was wrong about that.
AMBAR MENA
I not agree with Luis.
Luis you are saying that fighting and killing people you are going to make people believe what you want and that the violence is a good way of bringing a change to the society. I think that fighting and arguing with other people you are not going to get your goal, sometimes people get mad and they are in the situation where they feel they must fight but however, why do you have to fight if you can make your point just talking and making them understand what you want and why it is important to the society?
AMBAR MENA
I agree and disagree with Luis. I agree with him in the way that fighting is a form to solve problems but only in wars and an example that demonstrates this is the civil war. This problem only was solved when the confederacy fought with the union that’s right. I disagree with him because fighting is not a good way to solve problems because although you fight to defend yourself when the fight is over you will be the enemy of your opponent if you fight or not it will stay the same. These are the reasons that explain why I agree and disagree with Luis.
Genesis Peña.
FeDy Piimentel
208
8th
Mr.Dilley
Dear Luis, like I said in my response, when you use violent you are affecting your life and other people lives. So you shouldn't be agree with Macolm X. Many people couldn't be sure of them selves while they were fighting for the Civil Rights. Imagine your self in the position of Malcolm X I am sure that you will be afraid of people who attack you.
Karen,
It is not "Have a Dream", it is "I have a Dream" by MLK Jr.
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Yessica,
You must capitalize all proper names all the times such as Yessica, Martin or King. Also, you were writing Martin Luther King (don't forget Jr., he had a a father).
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Mariel,
Would not will! It would (if you were to try to do it, but it is hypothetical). Also, we taked about a great historical example that you were supposed to have used!
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Karen,
Good final point (MLK Jr. holliday)
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Luis,
Great counter argument against Karen,
"it don't matter if people have a celebration because Christopher Columbus didn't do the right thing and they are celebrating his holiday as a good thing."
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Fedilayne,
Great point on the dangers of your family also getting hurt if someone decides to fight back physically.
Fedilayne,
Thanks for submitting your second part. Better late than never!
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DANIEL WROTE
ONLINE QUESTION:
1st PART:
In my opinion, the best way to bring change to the society is by using the civil disobedience (Martin Luther King Jr.), because as we know “MLK” was a big influence to the United States citizens and government, the same as the Little Rock 9, they never fought against all those who attacked them, however they were another big influence for the United States, and they did all these without using any kind of weapons or punches if not that they used their intelligence and their attitude to can get what their goal was, and never use violence just brain. I know many people think why don’t punch someone back if he punches me, however that’s the password to can get a goal, “whatever people think, say, or do is not a reason to give up always continue what you have purpose to your self, because it is what is going to get you better results”, and that is what “MLK”, and the Little Rock 9 did, and now we are enjoying the result of all they did.
2nd PART: Debating LUIS
Luis don’t you think that civil disobedience is better than fight to bring change to the society, well it is better because as we see, today we are enjoying what all those people did without using the violence. Probably we could not be here if they would have attacked back to all those who attacked them, because it would have finished in a war that we probably wouldn’t have won, because we were the minority by that time, however we don’t know what could have happened if they would have attacked back but there exist the big possibility of a segregation even higher than it was by that time.
Daniel Sanchez
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Genesis Pena,
Great idea to use the Little Rock 9 example!
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